Frank da Cruz wrote:
> Jonathan Graham Harston  <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> : Reading the blurb gave me the impression that MS-DOS KERMIT 3.14
> : supported X/Y/ZMODEM file transfer.
> What blurb?

I think here's what happened, to cut a long story
( http://www.libdems.force9.co.uk/usr/jgh/docs/Comp/Comms/FindXYZ ) short,
I was tired, took some short cuts, forgot what I was doing.

I'd spent about four hours trawling through search engines and the web
trying to find a decent serial terminal program that supported file
transfers in a useful-to-me way.  I want to transfer bulk, multi-file, and
recursively.  Ideally, just drag a set of items into the program and it
goes away and does it, but acceptable would be to manually tell it
something like 'send C:\dirname' and have the /entire/ directory tree from
C:\dirname sent, not have some poxy 'not a file' error message.

All the software I'd trail-downloaded didn't do what I needed.  They all
needed you to type each filename, one by one, or they only had XModem,
which is pointless for batch transfer as XModem doesn't send a filename
block, so you end up with loads of files at the other end called things
like D0006743, D0006744, D0006745, etc...

Anyway, I stumbled on the Kermit site while looking at something else. The
info on CKermit says
 'Kermit 95 has built-in terminal emulation and integrated XYZMODEM
  protocol, whereas in C-Kermit these functions are accomplished
  externally.'

 (http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck70.html)

So I thought 'great, I think K95's for me, I'll download it and see', and
I followed the link to K95.  Here's where web fatigue started setting in. 
I remembered seeing 'FTP instructions' on the home page, so I went back to
there (http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ftphlp.html), and here's where it
all started falling down.

Every now and then, our IT department trashes our computers, and they have
to be reset.  It turned out that they hadn't set the DNS addresses, so
every time I tried to FTP to columbia, I was logged out as I had no IP/DNS
match.  Eventually fix that, restarted the PC several times, FTP'd back to
columbia, went to the k95 directory that told me 'not currently available
for download'.

Here's where logic starts falling apart.  I thought, ok, I'll get an
earlier version and look at that, went to kermit/a which told me to get
the zip file from /bin.  Got that, extracted it, ran it, works
wonderfully, but how do I get XYZModem working?

At that point I decided to give up and go home.  This morning I worked out
what went wrong.

Anyway,
Until K95 is available, which looks like it might be what I need, does
anybody know of a decent or semi-decent serial terminal program for
Windows 3/95/98 that supports bulk batch file transfer with, at a minimum,
X and YModem?  (ZModem optional).

Thanks.

[If I could rewrite what's at the other end, I'd put a Kermit server
there, but unfortunately, at the moment, I can't.]

> : Can somebody give a definitive answer.  Does MS-Kermit 3.xx support
> : XYZ?
> :
> No.

Thanks.

How on earth, in this day and age, can an elected council of 87 members
have only one person with any technical competence or understanding of IT
adminstration and implementation?

-- 
Cllr Jonathan Harston <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk>
http://www.libdems.force9.co.uk/usr/jgh/
Office IT Administrator; IT Working Group
Councillor for Walkley Ward, Sheffield City Council
Join me at the wall, and we'll bash our head against it.